This is too crazy for words !

[Cheyenne Indians AST]

Hi folks ,

So from our last litter , the one where our dear friend omar had ( sonic ×lola) we sold a female , and she is a fine one , overhere to a loving familyhome in holland.
Well everything sounds great and we are all happy , untill this idiotic thing happend.

The people that bought her , went on a short holiday to paris - so a brother was housekeeping the little one for the time being.
The brother was totally in love with the pup and was talking about buying one himself , he and his wife fell in love with the wonderfull behaviour and the onconditional love amstaffs give.

This makes me happy to hear - but now this : the brother called me and asked me if it was posible for them to purchase a pup from us as well , i said that i liked to meet them and see what kind of people they are.
Everything still sounds good , but this brother wanted to learn more about the breed so he called the dutch amstaff club - the ASTCH - and got a person on the phone and started to ask him questions about the breed in general.
After talking for a long time , the brother said that he has a sister that owns an amstaff pup from us and omar ...the man from the astch changed his voice and started to reallllllllllllllllllllly talk in a strange way ....he said that this pup was illegal and that the police could take the pup from them because this pup didnt have the right papers.
The reason was , according to him that sonic never did the MAG test , which is a temperament test that is needed in order to even have a litter or stud/ mate a female.
But what happens is that all dutch males can mate any foreign female without this bull nuts test - and since lola is italian and the litter was born there , the rules aren't important on this litter ..
And i knew that ...but he didnt.
He went on talking really bad about us , but the brother said that he was sure his sister isnt a fool and knew what she got into and trusted her completely.

The brother hang up , mostly because he never asked for a bad review about others that can not defend themselves ...so he now calls his sister ( she and her husband bought the pup from us )

The sister listened to all her brother had to tell her and then decided to call this astch person herself.
The man never stopped talking bad about me and everything i am doing ..even named others on the board of directors that don't like Schutzhund or IPO and even said that another said that i was doing it for the money #!#@?!@?@?@!?@!

Well of course she called me and told me alll about what she heard ...but i promissed her to give her all the correct information about all the rules and about everthing that i know .
So i emailed the dutch kennel club and asked them to give me an answer to my questions.

They answered me the same day , and that answer was exactly what i told the people - so i was right and this idiot was wrong.

I am not sure what my steps will be , but i will not leave it with this , afteral my good name is damaged , now its time for my revenge and get this over with once and for all.

john

[Carina]

John,
I just can say #!#@?@@?@!## too!

Carina

[dakota]

john,

This is so weird.

I couldn't believe my eyes

I also had mailed some day( a year or two ago )to the astch in holland to know why you weren't anymore in the list by the amstaff-breeders.

I got a mail back telling you were no longer member.

You know how i feel about you so I mailed back with a other question about the kennel (just to test them)
I got back some stupid mail where was said that only good breeders were involved on that list, which were member of the astch club.

I allready found it wrong to say that only members of that club are good breeder, stupid enough to never believe the club again...

We all know what good person you are and what perfect ast's you breed within the breed-legislation.

If I can help to solve the problem or I can help to get some information please do write me.

Dakota

[Cheyenne Indians AST]

Well i know kim , its too crazy for words , but well i have always been a pain in someones ass , so why not there.
The fact was that the same person that talked about me to these people is also responsable for getting us of the clubs link page - but i already didnt want to be a member of a club full of hypocrites.
They don't like us kind of people , but how needs them , certainly not me , never had never will.

Thats about all i can and want to say about this issue , i just wanted others to read what happens overhere , how nice some people are when in involves breeders and fanciers.

john

[dakota]

does this happens in the usa also?

i think it will , but is it in the usa like that?


that some breeders make clubs and taht they say others that don't belong to this group are not good?

[Bajas Dogs]

It is very different here in the US. We as breeders are not governed by the state. We do not have to take any kind of test on our dogs. In the UKC breed clubs set a code of ethics and a member should stick to it. People breed out side the club or within but they breed to try to better the breed. Some people may not like what others are doing but it's the breeders choice not the club's. If you don't stick to the code of ethics you may be banned by the club. If it is a bad enough offense you would be barred by the UKC and not allowed to participate in any of their programs.