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Post by Carina on Apr 25, 2003 12:04:15 GMT -5
I read my own text about when I was on MY Mentalhealt Test, I was not testet, my dog was!
Carina ;D
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Post by Tracey on May 1, 2003 18:00:17 GMT -5
Can you explain a little about the test for me??
My Am Staff is heading to Sweden after the World Show in Germany this year and I am curious if it is something he will need before he is shown in Europe??
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Post by Carina on May 1, 2003 20:10:27 GMT -5
Hallo Tracey!
I will try to answer you as soon as I found my book "Dog English", it´s easier for me to write here with a little bit help from it. It´s night in Sweden right now, but I´m promise to explain for you soon.
Carina
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Post by Carina on May 1, 2003 20:16:39 GMT -5
Tracey!
I can tell you directly, that the Mental Healthtest is nothing Amstaffs need to do in Sweden, I just do it for fun and to hold my dogs active.
Carina
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Post by Carina on May 2, 2003 17:00:52 GMT -5
Hallo again Tracey!
I haven´t found my book I need, but I will try to explain about the Mental Healttest for you. Exuse my bad english.
The test is in the wood and at the field for maybe 30 minutes, there is a lot of moments your dog has to handle. For exempel there is two people dressed like ghosts in the wood, they walk slowly towards your dog from two places, here they will check the dogs behavior- afraid?aggressiv?nervous?cool?control? And what does the dog do when the ghosts undressed?
There is a moment with chains make a loud noice when the dog went forward, how will the dog react? Can the dog walk the place again?
The testleader will also take your dog from you for a while, is the dog social?and the contact?
On the field there is a person dressed to an ugly "something", the person walk very strange and here you will let your dog run-will the dog run forward?what is the react?afraid?cool? After a while the person undressed and try to play with your dog-will the dog play?
Another moment is to stand still with the dog for (if I remember right) 5 minutes, what will the dog do?-stand still to?walk around?
There is also gunshots.
They also test if the dog will hunt.
The big questions of your dog is- Social,Contact,Play,Interesting,Coriousity,Cooperation, Fair,Treat/Aggressiv,Control?
Hope this will give you something...
Carina
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Post by Cheyenne Indians AST on May 3, 2003 5:49:07 GMT -5
Hi carina ,
Dont you mean a temperament test instead of a healthtest , when i read the story , i dont see anything that has to do with health ?
It sounds like a T Test to me ;-)
john
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Post by pluto on May 4, 2003 4:14:58 GMT -5
On my website you can see how we do the mentaltest in Sweden. You can also se the results of my dog. For the moment its just in swedish and in italian, but I have almost finish it in english (tried) and we will hopefully update the site soon.
Maria
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Post by pluto on May 4, 2003 9:41:16 GMT -5
One more thing. The swedish mentaltest is obligatory if you want to compete with your dog in the workingclasses. Its also obligatory for some working breeds (amstaff is not included). If you for you for exampel have a German shepard and wants to have puppies, both parents had to be tested. Otherwise the pups will not be registred. The mentaltest is a instrument for the breeders to see what kind of dogs they breed and its also good for the puppy byers. The swedish kennelklubb has a datebase where everybody can see all the results (hips, mentaltests, elbowls, obedience, IPO etc) of all the registred dogs. The dog can never be failed in test, its just describe the dog. The test preferible had to be done when the dog is 1- 1 1/5 years old. All the test are put together in diagrams and you can see enormous difference between different kind of breeds. Its very interesting reading.
Maria
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Post by Carina on May 4, 2003 10:49:53 GMT -5
Hallo John!
The test is called MH, and I think: What´s the real name?
I tried to be a little bit "international" on this site. By my self I say Mentaltest, just that I could see Maria (from Sweden to) also call it.
Carina
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Post by pluto on May 4, 2003 11:32:13 GMT -5
Hello Carina and John! Its the computer that change the word mentaltest to mentalhealthtest  At least I havent written it! Welcome to the forum Carina. Where in Sweden do you live? I live 25 km from Stockholm and have one amstaff male. You can see him on my website. |
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Post by Carina on May 4, 2003 12:01:51 GMT -5
Hallo John!
In Sweden everybody called the test MH, and I think when I will write about it on this site I will try to be a little bit "international" and use the whole word. I can see that Maria from Sweden call it Mentaltest, it´s the word I use at home.
Carina
Hallo everybody!
I also can tell that the rules in Sweden is: If you want to start your dog in competition of obedience the dog must been tested for this MH to get started, it´s a rule for every kind of dogs.
Carina again
Hallo Maria!
You write and tell that the dog can´t failed, I looked at my paper from the MH and I saw the six different "words" about the test:
1.The dog pass thrue the test.
2.The owner doesn´t want the gunshot for the dog.
3.The owner stop the test.
4.The mentaltestleader stop the test.
5.No good behavior from the dog at all.
6.Steps from the reaction(?)
When the dog doesn´t get number one, it must be failed.
What do you say, I´m not sure.
Carina
No good behavior at all from the dog.
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Post by Carina on May 4, 2003 12:19:02 GMT -5
Hallo! Maria it´s seems that the computer is a little bit crazy right now. When I answer John about my choice of word at the test, it´s seem like the answer doesn´t send. When I answer again, it was there. Sorry John  And Maria I live 15 miles from Stockholm, in Hällefornäs, not so far from Eskilstuna.Thank you welcome me to the forum. I will visit your website. Carina |
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Post by Carina on May 4, 2003 12:28:11 GMT -5
Hallo Maria again!
It´s not only the computer who´s crazy right now, when I read your text I read" 25 miles from Stockholm".
Then I read again I saw 25 KM, I´m from Stockholm from the beginning, I´m born there and all my relatives live there. HälleforSnäs is where i live now.
Carina
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Post by pluto on May 5, 2003 4:53:35 GMT -5
Hallo again!
You have right about that its obligatory for all breeds before competition (not dogshows). Then I tried to say that the mentaltest its not obligatory in the Amstaffs breeding program, like it is in the program for exampel Rottweiler, Doberman, Belgian shepards.
When I wrote that the dog cant failed I ment that the even if the dog have bad behavior theres nothing that says that the dog had to be put to death. The dogs behavior is just registred. Same behavior of a dog can also be big troubel for a family that want a petdog and and a dream for somebody who wants to work with it. The test is not like the "Korningtest" (english word?), when the dog will have a titel if he attain severel points. The korningtest is simalar, but a little bit harder and you do it when the dog is abour 3-4 years old. It also include free hips and a good exterior.The amstaff can not have the titel in Sweden even if he attain everything. Working breeds only can have the the titels.
Carina will you wisit the amstaff speciality in the behinning of june? I think its near were you living. Maybe I see you there.
Maria
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Post by pluto on May 5, 2003 4:54:04 GMT -5
Hallo again!
You have right about that its obligatory for all breeds before competition (not dogshows). Then I tried to say that the mentaltest its not obligatory in the Amstaffs breeding program, like it is in the program for exampel Rottweiler, Doberman, Belgian shepards.
When I wrote that the dog cant failed I ment that the even if the dog have bad behavior theres nothing that says that the dog had to be put to death. The dogs behavior is just registred. Same behavior of a dog can also be big troubel for a family that want a petdog and and a dream for somebody who wants to work with it. The test is not like the "Korningtest" (english word?), when the dog will have a titel if he attain severel points. The korningtest is simalar, but a little bit harder and you do it when the dog is abour 3-4 years old. It also include free hips and a good exterior.The amstaff can not have the titel in Sweden even if he attain everything. Working breeds only can have the the titels.
Carina will you wisit the amstaff speciality in the behinning of june? I think its near were you living. Maybe I see you there.
Maria
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At least I havent written it!